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Kultursammenstøddet i Ängelsberg
seminaret der pågår netop nu i Dalarna, omtalt her et par gange:
Engelsberg, Sweden
June 17 2006
Two of the leaders of European Muslim opinion clashed dramatically yesterday on the position and future of the Muslim communities in European states.
Tariq Ramadan, the Swiss-born intellectual and grandson of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Somalian-born Dutch MP who was stripped of her Dutch citizenship over allegations of a falsified application for citizenship, displayed in personal form the bitterness of a debate which both agreed convulses their co-religionists.
-Ms Hirsi Ali, who has taken an atheist position and lives under secret service protection becauseof threats to her life, toldthe annual conference organised by the Ax:son Johnson Foundation that leadersof Muslim opinion "mustdiscriminate between Islam as it is and Islam as itcould be" - and said thatMr Ramadan, whom she described as a "handsome and articulate leader ofopinion", had failed to do so. [..]
I helgen träffas den svenska eliten på en herrgård i Dalarna för att delta i de årliga Engelsbergsseminarierna.
Bakom den opolitiska fasaden finns en konservativ agenda och en gemensam fiende.
Men Sverige behöver knappast ännu ett slutet sällskap, snarare fler möten mellan makten och medborgarna, skriver i dag Håkan A Bengtsson. [..]
Bakom den opolitiska fasaden finns en konservativ agenda och en gemensam fiende.
Men Sverige behöver knappast ännu ett slutet sällskap, snarare fler möten mellan makten och medborgarna, skriver i dag Håkan A Bengtsson. [..]
- Särskilt efter 11/9 kompletteras detta med en fiendebild där det öppna samhällets motståndare inte längre stavas kommunism utan islamistisk fundamentalism. I ett tempererat konferensrum på Avesta Herrgård är kampen mot terrorismen ett självklart fokus. Från en annan utsiktspunkt är kampen mot fattigdomen vår tids stora utmaning. Jämför World Economic Forums (den globala elitens mötesplats) uniforma klädsel och konforma diskussioner med myllret på World Social Forum (den globala rättviserörelsens arena)!
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Kultursammenstøddet i Ängelsberg
seminaret der pågår netop nu i Dalarna, omtalt her et par gange:
Engelsberg, Sweden
June 17 2006
Two of the leaders of European Muslim opinion clashed dramatically yesterday on the position and future of the Muslim communities in European states.
-Ms Hirsi Ali, who has taken an atheist position and lives under secret service protection becauseof threats to her life, toldthe annual conference organised by the Ax:son Johnson Foundation that leadersof Muslim opinion "mustdiscriminate between Islam as it is and Islam as itcould be" - and said thatMr Ramadan, whom she described as a "handsome and articulate leader ofopinion", had failed to do so. [..]
-In a direct and sometimes heated argument, Mr Ramadan said: "My problem with you [Hirsi Ali] is that you are saying it is a problem with Muslims. Are you working to change a mentality - or to please the western audience?"
Ms Hirsi Ali said Mr Ramadan was guilty of ambiguity, and that if he believed in reconciliation, he should found a "Ramadanist" movement and fight for it.
Muslim pundits clash over future of Islam in Europe
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