What´s wrong with being fearful of islam ?
tænk, så blev hemmeligheden offentlig i selveste Al Guardian:
De hader hinanden! Et par historier DR overså i
"deres nye følsomhed":
Gay magazine in race row after calling Islam a barmy doctrine
Patrick BarkhamMonday January 2, 2006
The Guardian
A gay magazine which described immigrants as "criminals of the worst kind" and Islam as a "barmy doctrine" has been condemned as racist by other gay rights groups. According to the magazine of the Gay and Lesbian Humanist Association (Galha), Islam is growing "like a canker" in the UK through "unrestrained and irresponsible breeding".
The magazine also published an article endorsing the rightwing populist Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn, and described immigrants as "ill educated and culturally estranged Third Worlders".
*********
Mr Broadhead admitted could be "regarded as potentially racist". However, he said he stood by the remarks about Muslims and Islam.
Mr Broadhead wrote in the magazine: "What is wrong with being fearful of Islam? (There is a lot to fear) ... What does a moderate Muslim do, other than excuse the real nutters by adhering to this barmy doctrine?"
He described his article as "slightly over the top in wording maybe but basically we're saying Islam is homophobic".
He told the Guardian: "There may be people who think of themselves as moderate but we've yet to see them coming out and condemning their fundamentalist counterparts. If they want to follow a belief that we think is execrable it's up to them - it's a question of religion per se and the damage it can do in extremist form in theocracies where gays are not just put in jail but whipped and tortured."
According to Imaan, a support group for gay and lesbian Muslims, the anti-Islamic views of Galha are just the tip of the iceberg in the gay community.
"These comments are completely outrageous," said Imaan's spokeswoman, Rasina X. "In lots of ways the gay community reflects the straight community but Galha has gone beyond what the average straight person thinks. These comments are disgusting. They are worse than what the BNP would publish. It is racist."
http://www.gayhumanist.com/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/gayrights/story/0,,1676449,00.html
Arabisk Clockwork Orange på skinner
Hundreds of passengers were terrorised by a mob of youths
Passengers spoke of being warned they would be killed if they refused to hand over belongings or told police what had happened.
They said they were too frightened to intervene and several refused to lodge complaints of theft or assault.
"It was a real scene of pillage on the train," the regional prosecutor, Dominique Luiggi, said yesterday as details emerged. "Passengers were in a state of panic."
One witness said there had already been assaults and threats, including other indecent attacks on young women, on Saturday's outward journey.
He said the robbers were of Arab origin and had boasted about their plans to cause more trouble on the train.
France's Le Parisien newspaper likened the youths to the gang in the film Clockwork Orange.
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article336549.ece
Isn't it sweet that France 2 takes notice of the fact that "les jeunes" risked their lives while running over the tracks to escape the police?
http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/
France accused of covering up train gang attack
By John Lichfield in Paris
Opposition politicians have accused the French government of covering up a sustained attack by a gang of 20 young people on a crowded train near Nice on New Year's Day.
The group robbed and sexually assaulted passengers at knifepoint, smashed windows and slashed seats. No information on the incident was released by the authorities, who announced that he New Year festivities had passed off without a widely feared resumption of the violence seen in deprived suburbs in November.
The Socialist former education and culture minister, Jack Lang, accused the government of "disinformation", and the Socialist Party said the Interior Minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, had imposed a "stupefying silence" on the attack. Details of the incident emerged only when two people appeared in court three days later, accused of robbery and sexual assault.
It was reported yesterday that more than 100 young people from deprived districts of Marseilles and Avignon had been escorted on to the train by police at Nice early on New Year's Day. The group, some of Arab or African origin and others white, had taken advantage of an offer from the French railways, the SNCF, to travel to Riviera resorts for New Year's Eve for only €1.20 (80p) return. After SNCF security officers left the train at St-Raphael, a gang of 20 terrorised passengers, stealing their wallets and phones and sexually assaulting two women.
********
After meeting SNCF officials to discuss the incident, the Interior Minister said he hoped to create a national railway police force with 1,000-1,500 officers.
The group robbed and sexually assaulted passengers at knifepoint, smashed windows and slashed seats. No information on the incident was released by the authorities, who announced that he New Year festivities had passed off without a widely feared resumption of the violence seen in deprived suburbs in November.
The Socialist former education and culture minister, Jack Lang, accused the government of "disinformation", and the Socialist Party said the Interior Minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, had imposed a "stupefying silence" on the attack. Details of the incident emerged only when two people appeared in court three days later, accused of robbery and sexual assault.
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article336549.ece
Rivstart på 2005
(2005 kick startet)
Det mångkulturella året drog igång med en rivstart, kan man säga:
bränder och stölder
vandalisering och störningar i trafiken
misshandel och våldtäkter
knivmord i Märsta
terror mot nyårsfestande i Ronna.
Det senare beskrivs i Dagens Nyheter: "Bland festdeltagarna fanns flera barn, uppger Södertäljepolisen.Ungdomarna, som var i åldrarna 15 till 22 år, slängde bland annat in smällare i festlokalen, och hotade och misshandlade flera personer. De har även stulit saker från festdeltagarna."
Festdeltagarna flydde i panik, varvid bilar slogs sönder av angriparna...............................................
http://www.bgf.nu/ak06/v1.html
Medløber
Det Radikale Tågehorn
Der bliver for tiden lagt pres på den danske regering for at få en udtalelse om, at »regeringen ikke mener, at man skal misbruge ytringsfriheden til at sværte andres religion til«.
Sådan udtrykkes det af Ahmed Said Kassem, der repræsenterer organisationen Islamisk Trossamfund. Det skal man selvfølgelig heller ikke gøre, altså sværte nogen til, men det kan ikke være et dansk regeringsanliggende. At forlange en sådan udtalelse fra den danske regering og tilmed søge at få andre lande til at intervenere i danske anliggender i den anledning er simpelthen en trussel mod dansk demokrati. Ikke desto mindre er det det, som Islamisk Trossamfund helt bevidst og uden at lægge skjul på det er i gang med. Det bør enhver dansk politiker naturligvis tage afstand fra.
Den danske regering skal ikke afgive nogen som helst officiel udtalelse om ytringsfriheden og om Jyllands-Posten, som i øvrigt efter danske forhold overhovedet ikke har »sværtet« andres religion til, men bragt nogle i sig selv ligegyldige tegninger af en religiøs skikkelse. Ytringsfrihedens grænser er et domstolsanliggende, og sådan er grundloven også formuleret.
Danske politikere, som dagbladet Information har talt med, udtaler sig da også imod Islamisk Trossamfunds initiativ, der jo ikke just er egnet til at fremme respekten for integrationsviljen hos samfundets medlemmer. Kun én politiker mener, at det er helt i orden at fremkalde udenlandsk pres i sagen, og det er den radikale fhv. minister Elsebeth Gerner Nielsen: »Det at man søger at etablere et diplomatisk pres for sin sag, og samtidig udadtil argumenterer for en åben dialog, er jo noget, vi kender så udmærket i dansk udenrigspolitik. Sådan er politik«, siger hun. Den bemærkning fortjener at stå for sig selv.
Det bør dog bemærkes af dem, som endnu har en vis respekt for deres eget land, at en radikal politiker altså ikke mener, at der bør tages afstand fra, at repræsentanter for totalitære regimer søger at presse den danske regering til at afgive en udtalelse, som vil krænke grundlæggende danske frihedsrettigheder. Gad vidst, om det nu er blevet radikal politik, eller om Elsebeth Gerner Nielsen bare ikke fatter, hvad det er der er på færde.*
Vi venter på svaret, som jo i virkeligheden politisk er meget mere interessant end sagen om tegningerne.
Ditlev Tamm, Groft Sagt, Berlingske
(* kan det skyldes EGN´s forlængede skolegang på Odens Univesitet som "cand. rer.soc." ? Hvad i hele verden er det for en uddannelse?
De hader hinanden! Et par historier DR overså i
"deres nye følsomhed":
Gay magazine in race row after calling Islam a barmy doctrine
Patrick BarkhamMonday January 2, 2006
The Guardian
A gay magazine which described immigrants as "criminals of the worst kind" and Islam as a "barmy doctrine" has been condemned as racist by other gay rights groups. According to the magazine of the Gay and Lesbian Humanist Association (Galha), Islam is growing "like a canker" in the UK through "unrestrained and irresponsible breeding".
The magazine also published an article endorsing the rightwing populist Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn, and described immigrants as "ill educated and culturally estranged Third Worlders".
*********
Mr Broadhead admitted could be "regarded as potentially racist". However, he said he stood by the remarks about Muslims and Islam.
Mr Broadhead wrote in the magazine: "What is wrong with being fearful of Islam? (There is a lot to fear) ... What does a moderate Muslim do, other than excuse the real nutters by adhering to this barmy doctrine?"
He described his article as "slightly over the top in wording maybe but basically we're saying Islam is homophobic".
He told the Guardian: "There may be people who think of themselves as moderate but we've yet to see them coming out and condemning their fundamentalist counterparts. If they want to follow a belief that we think is execrable it's up to them - it's a question of religion per se and the damage it can do in extremist form in theocracies where gays are not just put in jail but whipped and tortured."
According to Imaan, a support group for gay and lesbian Muslims, the anti-Islamic views of Galha are just the tip of the iceberg in the gay community.
"These comments are completely outrageous," said Imaan's spokeswoman, Rasina X. "In lots of ways the gay community reflects the straight community but Galha has gone beyond what the average straight person thinks. These comments are disgusting. They are worse than what the BNP would publish. It is racist."
http://www.gayhumanist.com/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/gayrights/story/0,,1676449,00.html
Arabisk Clockwork Orange på skinner
Hundreds of passengers were terrorised by a mob of youths
Passengers spoke of being warned they would be killed if they refused to hand over belongings or told police what had happened.
They said they were too frightened to intervene and several refused to lodge complaints of theft or assault.
"It was a real scene of pillage on the train," the regional prosecutor, Dominique Luiggi, said yesterday as details emerged. "Passengers were in a state of panic."
One witness said there had already been assaults and threats, including other indecent attacks on young women, on Saturday's outward journey.
He said the robbers were of Arab origin and had boasted about their plans to cause more trouble on the train.
France's Le Parisien newspaper likened the youths to the gang in the film Clockwork Orange.
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article336549.ece
Isn't it sweet that France 2 takes notice of the fact that "les jeunes" risked their lives while running over the tracks to escape the police?
http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/
France accused of covering up train gang attack
By John Lichfield in Paris
Opposition politicians have accused the French government of covering up a sustained attack by a gang of 20 young people on a crowded train near Nice on New Year's Day.
The group robbed and sexually assaulted passengers at knifepoint, smashed windows and slashed seats. No information on the incident was released by the authorities, who announced that he New Year festivities had passed off without a widely feared resumption of the violence seen in deprived suburbs in November.
The Socialist former education and culture minister, Jack Lang, accused the government of "disinformation", and the Socialist Party said the Interior Minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, had imposed a "stupefying silence" on the attack. Details of the incident emerged only when two people appeared in court three days later, accused of robbery and sexual assault.
It was reported yesterday that more than 100 young people from deprived districts of Marseilles and Avignon had been escorted on to the train by police at Nice early on New Year's Day. The group, some of Arab or African origin and others white, had taken advantage of an offer from the French railways, the SNCF, to travel to Riviera resorts for New Year's Eve for only €1.20 (80p) return. After SNCF security officers left the train at St-Raphael, a gang of 20 terrorised passengers, stealing their wallets and phones and sexually assaulting two women.
********
After meeting SNCF officials to discuss the incident, the Interior Minister said he hoped to create a national railway police force with 1,000-1,500 officers.
The group robbed and sexually assaulted passengers at knifepoint, smashed windows and slashed seats. No information on the incident was released by the authorities, who announced that he New Year festivities had passed off without a widely feared resumption of the violence seen in deprived suburbs in November.
The Socialist former education and culture minister, Jack Lang, accused the government of "disinformation", and the Socialist Party said the Interior Minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, had imposed a "stupefying silence" on the attack. Details of the incident emerged only when two people appeared in court three days later, accused of robbery and sexual assault.
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article336549.ece
Rivstart på 2005
(2005 kick startet)
Det mångkulturella året drog igång med en rivstart, kan man säga:
bränder och stölder
vandalisering och störningar i trafiken
misshandel och våldtäkter
knivmord i Märsta
terror mot nyårsfestande i Ronna.
Det senare beskrivs i Dagens Nyheter: "Bland festdeltagarna fanns flera barn, uppger Södertäljepolisen.Ungdomarna, som var i åldrarna 15 till 22 år, slängde bland annat in smällare i festlokalen, och hotade och misshandlade flera personer. De har även stulit saker från festdeltagarna."
Festdeltagarna flydde i panik, varvid bilar slogs sönder av angriparna...............................................
http://www.bgf.nu/ak06/v1.html
Medløber
Det Radikale Tågehorn
Der bliver for tiden lagt pres på den danske regering for at få en udtalelse om, at »regeringen ikke mener, at man skal misbruge ytringsfriheden til at sværte andres religion til«.
Sådan udtrykkes det af Ahmed Said Kassem, der repræsenterer organisationen Islamisk Trossamfund. Det skal man selvfølgelig heller ikke gøre, altså sværte nogen til, men det kan ikke være et dansk regeringsanliggende. At forlange en sådan udtalelse fra den danske regering og tilmed søge at få andre lande til at intervenere i danske anliggender i den anledning er simpelthen en trussel mod dansk demokrati. Ikke desto mindre er det det, som Islamisk Trossamfund helt bevidst og uden at lægge skjul på det er i gang med. Det bør enhver dansk politiker naturligvis tage afstand fra.
Den danske regering skal ikke afgive nogen som helst officiel udtalelse om ytringsfriheden og om Jyllands-Posten, som i øvrigt efter danske forhold overhovedet ikke har »sværtet« andres religion til, men bragt nogle i sig selv ligegyldige tegninger af en religiøs skikkelse. Ytringsfrihedens grænser er et domstolsanliggende, og sådan er grundloven også formuleret.
Danske politikere, som dagbladet Information har talt med, udtaler sig da også imod Islamisk Trossamfunds initiativ, der jo ikke just er egnet til at fremme respekten for integrationsviljen hos samfundets medlemmer. Kun én politiker mener, at det er helt i orden at fremkalde udenlandsk pres i sagen, og det er den radikale fhv. minister Elsebeth Gerner Nielsen: »Det at man søger at etablere et diplomatisk pres for sin sag, og samtidig udadtil argumenterer for en åben dialog, er jo noget, vi kender så udmærket i dansk udenrigspolitik. Sådan er politik«, siger hun. Den bemærkning fortjener at stå for sig selv.
Det bør dog bemærkes af dem, som endnu har en vis respekt for deres eget land, at en radikal politiker altså ikke mener, at der bør tages afstand fra, at repræsentanter for totalitære regimer søger at presse den danske regering til at afgive en udtalelse, som vil krænke grundlæggende danske frihedsrettigheder. Gad vidst, om det nu er blevet radikal politik, eller om Elsebeth Gerner Nielsen bare ikke fatter, hvad det er der er på færde.*
Vi venter på svaret, som jo i virkeligheden politisk er meget mere interessant end sagen om tegningerne.
Ditlev Tamm, Groft Sagt, Berlingske
(* kan det skyldes EGN´s forlængede skolegang på Odens Univesitet som "cand. rer.soc." ? Hvad i hele verden er det for en uddannelse?
posted by Steen at
torsdag, januar 05, 2006
<< Home